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Frommer `Stop`

Frommer `Stop`

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This design appeared in 1912 and was adopted by the Honvedseg, the Hungarian element of the Austro-Hungarian Army. It`s designation was `Frommer Stop`, it had no model number until 1919. The designation `19M` (Model 19) was given after it was adapted `again` in 1919 by the independent Hungarian army and official Hungarian documents indicate that this is the correct model designation. It subsequently became the official service pistol of the Hungarian army, police and secret police. It remained in military and police hands until 1945, though theoretically replaced by later models.

The Frommer Stop was a fresh approach to long recoil operation, the vital feature being a double spring system lying in a tunnel above the barrel. One spring controls the movement of the bolt, while its companion absorbs the barrel recoil and returns the barrel to the firing position. This two-spring system is implicit in any long recoil mechanism where barrel and bolt move independently. The springs surrounded the barrel and bolt in the 1901 Frommer design, but placing them in the 1910-type tunnel (though complicating maintenance) made the gun much more compact. At the instant of firing, the Stop is locked by a rotating head on the two-piece bolt. An inertia firing pin is struck by an external hammer, and the only safety device is a grip lever. Barrel and bolt then recoil for about an inch to unlock the bolt. The bolt is then held while the barrel runs back, stripping out and ejecting the empty case as it does so. The bolt is then released to run forward, chamber the fresh round, and rotate its head to lock the breech. It is not basically a good design, is somewhat delicate for a service weapon, and was reportedly not popular with Hungarian troops. The complication of a long recoil system is wasted on relatively low-powered cartridges which can be handled by a simple blowback action. Original service pistols mostly chambered the 7.65 Frommer cartridge (7.65mm acp loaded hot), some chambered the 9mm Frommer cartridge (.380 acp loaded hot) and always bear an official acceptance mark on the left front side of the trigger guard: `Bp` (for Budapest), followed by the Austro-Hungarian or Hungarian crest and the last two figures of the year of manufacture. The grips are marked "FS".
Left side markings: FEGYVERGYAR - BUDAPEST - FROMMER - PAT. STOP CAL.7.65m/m (.32)
The pistol was also offered commercially in 9mm Short (.380 acp) after 1919, but these lack official markings. The Frommer Stop remained in production until about 1929, and is still relatively common in Central Europe. A 9mm (.380 acp) variant called `39M` was reportedly made for special export order.
Warning: A few Frommer Stops were stamped with fake Nazi stamps (Waffenamt WaA63). None of these pistols were Nazi stamped originally.

Frommer Stop Field Stripping: Empty the chamber. Pull out the magazine. Press in the barrel nut retainer (use the corner of the mag) and unscrew the barrel nut. Release pressure on the retainer and barrel guide and remove them. Remove recoil spring. Use slotted top of the barrel guide tool: Fit slot over cross lug at end of recoil spring guide. Push guide rearward, and rotate 90deg. Cock hammer and pull bolt body out to rear. Rotate bolthead clockwise to separate from body. Rotate recoil spring guide using the barrel guide an additional 90deg to release it from the frame. Push barrel rearward to remove from the frame.


recoil operated

7.65 mm Browning (.32 ACP), 9 mm Browning Short

610 g (21.5 oz)

165 mm (6.5 in)

100 mm (3.94 in)

4 grooves, rh

Magazine Capacity:
7 rounds

In service dates:

Muzzle Velocity:
920 fps (.32)


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